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the growth. rebound and former president bill clinton hitting the links. this is a photo from last year. what we don't know what was said teen them this year my guest homes the former president was critiquing more than just his successor's swing. art laffer was the top reagan economic adviser and you voted twice for bill clinton because his prosecutor mix of taxes. explain that? >>guest: yes i sure did. but for the raise hikes at top end, he cut taxes on the working people between ages of 65 and 72. he cut taxes on trade and products. he cut government spending as a share g.d.p. dramatically and he cut the capital gains tax rate and butt in welfare reform. what do you want from a president that bill clinton did not deliver? he was a great president. >>neil: the investment taxes was that concurrent with what was going on in the income tax hike front? >>guest: no. it was not. the capital gains tax reduction which he dropped the high of the race from 28 percent to 20 percent but what he really did that was amazing, he exempted owner occupied homes from ever paying capital gains taxes again, $250
this because you remember, we went through this with newt. you know, bill clinton would push newt only so far, and then the conservatives in the caucus like myself and matt salmon, steve largent and others would say we're not doing a deal. we will take this place down. we're not doing a deal. and then newt would call bill clinton up and say, you're pushing me too far. you've got to work with me here. the same thing's happening right now with boehner. >> with boehner. >> the republican -- and when you start stripping people of committee -- committee seats, war breaks out and it gets really -- it happened with us. it's about to happen here. he's got to realize that boehner is his partner. >> it feels like we're at a really critical moment here with respect to boehner. and he can choose one of two paths. he could choose the recalcitrant path, which is perfectly possible, or he can say to himself, okay, i need to build a coalition for the purposes of this fiscal cliff deal. that includes house democrats. and how do i go about doing that without totally alienating the base of my party? and i'm ver
are live in michigan. >>> and what is michelle obama and former president bill clinton fighting for? it's a good thing. [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do >>> scott walker is under fire after endorsing a plan to end same-day voter registration in wisconsin two weeks ago. now he's trying to calm the rumors to convince everyone, it's not a big priority for him. >> it's a ridiculous issue. my priority is about jobs, it's not a part of my legislative priorities. it hasn't been something i've thought about. >> just something he talked about? a ridiculous issue? sorry, i'm not buying that one. because on the same day that he called this a ridiculous issue, two of his buddies in the state house were actively signing up co-sponsors for the bill that would end election day registration. so he can say it's
to bill clinton levels. interesting, on the op ed page of investors business daily today, what they talk about is because the president loves the bill clinton era, forget about the tax rates. how about bringing spending in line with what it was when bill clinton was president of the united states? the last year of the clinton presidency, government expenditures were 18% of gdp. now over the last four years, they've averaged about 25%. so idb says adopt the spending levels and restrain the cost, mr. president. not the tax rates. cut the spending, not the -- >> gretchen: it's kind of like that duh sound on the simpson show. people know this. people know this is what it's going to come down to yet it's this posturing. now headlines, chaos in cairo. president morsi returning to his palace overnight. he took off amid violent protests between police and protests, 100,000. they're outraged over morsi expanding his powers. hello, you elected him -- but the muslim brotherhood calling for its own protests over alleged abuses by the opposition. several tv stations in egypt going back to protest the
they talked about it because president clinton is a political wonk. what bill clinton showed during his presidency is that there's a way to show common ground with republicans who hate you. they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive to do that. >> big news. stand by. my thanks. in need to pass along this breaking news from across the pond. we're just learning that prince william and kate middleton are expecting. this is news from clarence house. they will be having their first baby. nbc news is working further to confirm this but the rest of the royal family has said to be excited by this news. she was admitted to the hospital this afternoo
%, there's nothing else left to get them the next year. even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racinin taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous economy and growth and
under bill clinton proven just the opposite. in the eight years under george bush proven when you do give tax cuts to the rich, the economy doesn't soar, it sinks. president obama finally part of their campaign yesterday always very clever. obama operation. they came up with a way for all americans to be able to sound off on this issue. he noted that if the tax cuts on the middle class on the 98% do go up, middle class americans will pay $2,000 more in taxes every year. that means $2,000 out of your pocket so the president's asking people to tell members of congress what that -- what you could do with that $2,000. what that $2,000 would mean to you and they're sending -- asking people to send their stories to their member of congress. republican or democrat or to their united states senators and they've done so by coming up with a twitter hash tag. it's hash tag my 2k. president obama announcing it. >> obama: tell members of commerce what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress. write
is a bet solution than just charging people who make a lot of money what they were paying when bill clinton was president. >> the clinton tax rates worked well, and when you look at where we really are today, although the democrats are playing really tough on these top tax rates, they have conceded about 75% of the tax debate to republicans by agreeing with them on all of the otherç rates. >> that is true, aalthough there is a matter of timing. you know, i think part of what you have to look at here is it's really hrepublicans who force this conversation about having deficit reduction right now. we shouldn't have deficit reduction right now. we should focus on jobs and employment and continued stimulus for the economy, which i was really happy about the president at least had some of that in his plan. then you ask yourself, okay, what could you do in terms of reducing the deficit that would be the least damaging, and what economists say and what makes common sense is people at the top end of the income scale, who can afford to pay a little more, that's the place where we can raise the rat
was above 70%, we had a faster average annual growth rate in this country than we've had since. bill clinton in the 1990s raise the taxes. raised the highest marginal tax rate and did better in terms of the economy job creation, economic growth, and economic performance by every measure than the years after george w. bush reduced the highest marginal tax rates. the evidence seems to point in the opposite direction, higher taxes on the wealthy help the economy, and don't hurt the economy. >> eliot: that is exactly the point that warren buffet has made over and over again. the preeminent investor over the years. he said i'm a capitalist. i want to make money. listen to robert reich. from an ideological point of view it seems to me from the inception of the republican party they want to cut taxes cut taxes this has been an effort to starve the beast. to say that there is no money for government, and you must cut the agenda. that seemed to be the agenda from the early reagan revolution revolution. >> david stockman came up with the phrase starve the beast. he understood if you go deeper and dee
can tell you, it's not a hard ask, it's a partnership. and actually, as much as bill clinton and newt gingrich loatheds each other at times, they worked together to deal with -- >> on impeachment. >> to deal with republicans like myself on balancing the budget for the first time in a generation, balancing it four years for the first time since the 1920s, paying down the national debt. and you know what? newt gingrich always had to fight us on his right flank, and he and bill clinton sat in the white house and strategized. >> i have a question. >> republican votes for that first clinton budget that set them on the path. >> joe, i've got -- >> hold on. come on, richard. you must have been sleeping or somewhere in britain in '95, '96, '97, '98 and '99 when we balanced the budget for the first time in a generation. >> joe, i have a question for you. let's say boehner goes back to his caucus and says, you know what? from the president's first proposal, i was able to shave off $600 billion in tax hikes. >> right. >> so i saved that. >> by the way, we're going to end up at, like, 1.2, aren't
people, it would clearly have large consequences for him. bill: secretary of state hillary clinton called an emergency meeting with the pentagon. >> the pentagon has contingency plans for everything including the chemical attack. it's believed according to a u.s. source that syria has put this sarin fast into cannisters that could be dropped from planes. these cannisters are designed to fracture so the devastating nerve gas could escape. but it's not known whether syria intends to use those chemical weapons. we think we have it in aerosol form. the u.s. is making contingency plans in case bashar al-asaad leaves the country suddenly and flees somewhere for asylum which would leave a vacuum there. several countries in that region are trying to find a place for assad to go. secretary of state hillary clinton has a just-added meeting today in dublin, ireland. here you see her earlier today. she and the russian minister decided to meet with the envoy to syria. across barbra himybill: russia s discussion in moscow. earlier in a week there was a report it was pulling support away from damascus.
'll be with him in a moment. they say america doesn't have anything to worry about, bill clinton calling everybody out. bill: bob co stas going head-to-head with bill o'reilly about his recent on air attack about gun and a gun culture in america after the murder-suicide of an nfl player and his girlfriend. >> obviously americans have a right to bare arms i'm not looking to repeal the 2nd amendment. i have i have not immersed myself in it all my life. i never called for a probation on guns, never used the words gun control ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do bill: a rescue effort after a deadly accident inside of this water tower in eastern pennsylvania when equipment malfunctioned sending a member of the cleaning crew plummeting to his death inside and left another suspended for hours. the firefighters on the scene taking extra precaution while rescuing that second worker. >> he was talking to us from the one set that's why this was not an immediately 4 rushed operation. we took our time and put all the safety -- as much safety into the system as w
president bill clinton. ben's father vinod is an old friend of the clintons'. over the years, he's donated thousands of dollars to theirs and other democratic campaigns. and over time the families became close friends. >> ben, a beautiful man with a beautiful life. some people live four times as long and don't do as much good or bring as much joy. >> why did you decide to call me? >> i called you in desperation. i wanted to know what to do. i just knew that somebody needed to do something, but that's why i called you. i thought you -- a, i knew you'd care about it. and, b, i thought you'd know something about it. >> i could tell in your voice that you were pretty broken up. what kind of kid was he? >> a light shined out of him. that's all i can tell you. he grew up, he was big, strong, handsome, smart and wanted to make something of his life. he was industrious, but he was normal and liked to have a good time. i promise you that night he had no idea that he was turning out the lights. none. and if it's true of him, it's got to be true of a lot of other people. >> as soon as people hear tha
bowles idea. they summarized the testimony that the bill clinton chief of staff last year gave about what he thought might kind of be a workable budget deal way back then. because bowles is a democrat, the republicans thought they he could try to pretend that agreeing with a single democrat means that they are actually willing to compromise big time even though erskine bowles is a very easy democrat to negotiate with, unlike the actual elected democrats in washington. in other words, erskine bowles is willing to compromise on things or was willing to compromise on things that the democrats are not willing to co comp pro mice on. which means that it's utterly meaningless on your way to try to get a deal with the president of the united states. erskine bowles' proposal included a $600 billion cut in medicare spending which he achieved by raising the medicare eligibility age. so republicans just proposed raising the eligibility age for medicare, a proposal that polls show is supported by a full 30% of the american people and rejected by only 67% of them. white house communications director d
rate we had when bill clinton was president and our economy kree aed nearly 23 million new jobs. >> and there are reports that republicans are considering a doomsday plan should talks break down. according to senior republican sources the gop would allow a vote on extending bush tax cuts for the middle class and nothing more. under one variation of this plan, house republicans would vote present on the bill to voice their disapproval but still allowing it to pass entirely on democratic votes. >>> with hillary clinton wrapping up her final trip abroad as secretary of state, president obama is expected to announce his pick to replace her at the state department as early as this week. the white house says no decision has been made. but u.n. ambassador susan rice and john kerry are rumored to be the top choices. senator john mccain, one of rice's most outspoken republican critics has been a long time friend of kerries in the senate and there was a light moment between the two at a press conference yesterday. >> i would hope our colleagues would leap at the opportunity to do that. se
-bowles commission. because in other words it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is where the proposal -- >> -- >> listen that's a point. that's how extreme this is, bob. and -- >> in terms of -- does not have the rate reductions, does not convert medicare and does not convert medicaid to a voucher. it doesn't have the structural changes that are objectionable to the democrats. there's a lack of specifics here. but if i'm the president i'm thinking they're putting $800 billion on the table in removing deductions and exemptions i'm going to pocket that and add some of the additional revenue from rates i can get from allowing rates to expire. >> we're going to be talking to senator johnson this morning also xavier becerra about the details or lack of details in the two competing plans at this point and how much bowles is connected or not connected to this plan. still ahead this morning on "starting point" a young cancer patient missing from a hospital and her life depends on finding her. we'll tell you what happened when police found her father. that's coming up. this holiday, share ever
get something done on this. >> yeah, done. d-u-n. right. i love what the former president bill clinton, the analogy, just a kabuki dance, he said, they're like two dogs that meet over a piece of meat, they sniff each other out. they're all move torgdz a deal. that's what is going on before we head over the cliff. >> no one puts it in layman's terms, no one does it as well as bill clinton. putting it in terms everyone understand. this is our visual. this is the cliff. end of the year. this is high tech. >> yeah. >> oh! what, ha ha. but see. that's right. negotiations never go in a straight line. yeah. >> little crooked there. got somer use today. hanging left. >> i hate that. >>> bizarre turn this morning for soft wereware tycoon john mcafee. he was arrested in guatemala last night for entering the country illegally and now there is word that immigration authorities are about to send him back to belize. before his arrest, mcafee spoke exclusively to abc's matt guttmann in guatemala city. >> reporter: after weeks on the lam, software security pioneer, john mcafee has resurfaced in guatem
of state. and bill clinton's state department, she was in charge of african policy including controversial decisions on sudan. today republicans also blamed her for another security failure, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 obama campaign, rice ridiculed john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell reporting. >>> as most people focus on susan rice and john kerry as the frontrunners for the secretary of state job, a new report suggest that's former republican senator chuck hagel is also vetted by the white house for a potential security post. >>> overseas, egyptian president mohamed morsi is expected to call for unity while addressing his nation today. tension still very high after he issued an edict that will give him sweeping power above the reach of judicial review until a new constitution is adopted. they're rushing to finish a new draft of the constitution that could see a vote as early as today. but with protesters continuing to clash with riot
taken this out under bill clinton. that really just set the stage for the commission that you just referred to, the erskine bowles commission, and here we are almost 20 years later. we're out of time. i wish we had more. i appreciate you. great to see you. and be sure to tell newt gingrich's love for me. there is a story behind that. i should not have done that. my best to you. up next, the civil war raging in serious sets off alarms in the obama administration as reports of chemical weapons are surfacing. we will be talking syria, egypt, iran, israel, palestine, possible u.s. intervention. his new book. i wonder, is that it? that is it. my goodness. that's good. that's dead. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to h underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron it for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women,speciallthose whar or who may become pregnant, and chilen should avoid contact where axon is apapplied as unexpected signs of puber
. it is disappointing in the sense. if it were president bill clinton, you might think that something. ideas might be exchanged with one another. >> steve: some folks suggest that maybe the president would offer him secretary of business. >> gretchen: really? wait a minute. what percentage of people watching right now think that president obama would offer mitt romney secretary of business. >> brian: that is. >> gretchen: that would be fantastic but i doubt it. >> brian: in reading his bio. one of the business mistake was working in the cabinet for president nixon. i am personally kind of disappointed that bee are talking about tax rates for the rich. >> steve: campaign. >> brian: what about the middle class people standing in the back drop as they need a break and the president urging for something to be done yesterday and there is no scheduled meetings with john boehner. >> gretchen: it is annoying to see just a campaign. how many people are tired of a campaign speech. why not come to the table and figure it out. i don't understand it. >> steve: at this point, both sides know what they will give
and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and had and to send a message to the world, just as the president said, if you mess with the united states there are serious and potentially deadly consequences for doing so. bill: i just want to add this. about a month ago the deputy interior minister said the investigation was going well. about three weeks ago the ministry spokesman said the results would come soon. i put those in quotes because we are still waiting on that. steven hayes, thank you out of washington. martha: remember the homeless man whose picture went viral on the internet when a new york city policeman gave him a pair of socks and a pair of boot
. he did the deal with the newt gingrich and bill clinton. you c . stuart: stop smiling. >> every democrat sitting right% there has said the same thing. remember bill clinton. he raised tax rates and it sent off a boom. you don't agree with that? >> i do agree with it, but he also reformed welfare. he was also willing to rein in modestly entitlements and do things on a comprehensive basis, it worked and paid huge dividends. stuart: i've got 30 seconds. >> yes. stuart: are we going to get a fiscal cliff avoid dan deal? >> we may get some form of a deal. we are not going to get a real deal. i think the economy is going to be hurt and i think both sides, especially the president deserve blame. stuart: who will get the blame? >> the republicans clearly are going to get the blame and hurting themselves. stuart: but we may go into a much slower economy and hurts the president. >> bad news for the president and even worse news for the the american people. stuart: i agree with that. all right, doug, not bad the at all. >> still a democrat. stuart: is that a tag line to every interview? >>
. you go back to bill clinton's tax rates which we did pretty well under bill clinton, you cut some defense spending, which isn't going to get cut otherwise because the defense contractors are in practically every congressional district in the place. and you do make some human services cuts which i don't like but everybody's going to have to put something on the table here. >> steve rattner, i'm sure you would beg to differ with what howard dean had to say as far as the fiscal cliff goes. he says it's not a fiscal cliff, it's more like a fiscal slope. there are some people that occupy the left side of the american political spectrum that would agree with howard dean saying listen, it's really not that big of a deal as deficit hawks are making it out to be. you would disagree, i would guess. >> well, i think howard is disagreeing a little bit, too. i think howard is saying it's time for meaningful deficit reduction. howard's become a deficit hawk. i think howard and i would disagree probably on some of the elements of what constitutes -- >> no, but he's saying it's not a disaster if
, and campaign finance charges, until president bill clinton commuted his sentence as time served in 2001. reynolds says he's paid the price for past mistakes, and it's time for him to get the old job back. >> i made mistakes, but again that was almost 18, almost 20 years ago. i just -- president clinton once said to me, kind enough to grant me executive clemency, he said don't allow the rest of the world to keep their foot on your neck. you have to go forward in life. you have to do things. i'm not a two, three, four, five, six-year sentence, whatever you get, shouldn't be a life sentence. >> sean: welcome to chicago. joining me now david webb and alexis mcgill johnson. not only this girl, but when she said, oh, there's a catholic schoolgirl, 15-year-old friend of mine, he goes, oh, did i -- that would join them, by the way, in the sexual escapade -- oh, dihit th,oh, did i hit the ? >> we know this bad behavior is part of an issue. >> sean: what's worse, foot-tapping or pedophilia? >> when we talk about mark toley, david vitter and -- >> sean: they've become scandals. >> the voters need
to get bill clinton's attention. because we weren't getting serious negotiations. somehow, after we proved how serious we were we negotiated. wented up passing welfare -- welfare reform, four consecutive balanced budgets we were able to work together because we had mutual respect. it is clear president obama has no respect for the congressional republicans. people -- it is not just a laughing party -- laughing matter. here's a guy with four more years as president and starting his second term with total contempt for the beam in charge of the u.s. house. they should indicate clearly not only are they not going to give in on the debt ceiling. he may have a hard time getting any money for anything out of the congress next year. at which point he's got a big problem running the government. >> sean: one power grab after another. harry reid proposing ending the filibuster so they can take control there. here's pro bowsing a blank cheque and gets to raise the debt ceiling at will obviously a lack of respect. i think the president who won't call let's say major hasan in fort hood terror or
. her president, former president bill clinton, was president obama's key surrogate during this election cycle, setting the stage for president obama to return the favor in 2016. if she so decides to run. remember earlier this week, she was at the save and center for middle east policy and they ran that glossy video that felt like a campaign video in which she was praised by a number of officials, including president benjamin netanyahu. the stage sbing set f that's what she decides. if you go deeper into that poll, 66% of women say she should run, so higher than the national average. that would be one of her core constituencies. those close to me tell me when she steps down she'll focus on resting. >> to be frank, though, i think she's deserved a well-deserved rest. >> reporter: absolutely. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. look th
, wolf. >> reminds me of that stalemate back in the '90s during the clinton administration when bill clinton was president, newt gingrich was speaker, the threat to shut down the government. bill clinton didn't blink. the republicans didn't blink. they shut down the government. the republicans were blamed by and large for that shutting down the government even if it was only for a few days. a lot of the democrats who served worked for bill clinton at that time are working for this president right now. they remember that government shutdown stand-off. let's see if that affects their thinking going forward right now. thanks very much, jessica, for that. >>> there's bad flooding in california right now. what does it mean for the state's most famous wine producing regions? we'll have the latest on that. a lot more news coming up. ienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. aww, not the mall. well, i'll do the shopping... if
and said i still think he's an s.o.b. when nixon's wife died he complained that bill clinton, quote, came to me for advice to save his bottom and couldn't even send a cabinet member to pat's funeral. these are relationships forged around rivalries. i think it's impossible to expect, especially these two, to move forward and have a lunch. it's weird. >> yeah. they seem to really actually have total contempt and disdain for one another. which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect for mccain. i will say your intro, jonathan, about costco, i was thinking i love the joe biden image at costco. if the two guys, mitt romney and the president, were like wandering through costco together, getting samples, that would be a beautiful image. >> that's not weird, but sitting down at lunch is weird? >> one thing i feel like they might actually have in common, i feel like they both might like costco. we'll have to speculate on that. the thing is for me, not only is there no substance here, but even the symbolism of it, what does it really matter? nobody --
across the table the way they did with bill clinton, the way they did with ronald reagan, and the way you get things done in washington, rather than saying hey, would you stick with grover norquist or would you not or would you address entitlements or not. i believe it's vital that we address the entitlements, who are the elephant in the room, but that would be up to the people who would be sitting across the table from each other. we cannot go over this fiscal cliff, no matter what people on both ends of the political spectrum say. i believe that there was a popularity poll in case you missed it where now members of congress rank just above car salespeople and i'm a great admirer of car salespeople, you know. it's not even astonishing and it angers me beyond belief, even journalists rank higher than members of congress. >> former senate majority leader george mitchell knows what it's like to be in the middle of the debate. he joins me now. senator mitchell, you more or less have been in john boehner's shoes. you were a congressional leader hammering out a tax and spending cut deal with t
under bill clinton. what newt gingrich thinks it will take to avoid that happening again. >>> plus one of my personal heroes, the fastest man in the history of planet earth. ja ma jamaican sprinter usain bolt revealing a talent you may not know he has. ♪ let's get together and feel all right ♪ >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, you are so hot, america. i mean that literally. the temperature was a balmy 60 degrees this afternoon in new york just outside cnn's studios. the average high temperature in december is normally 43. a warm front has flooded the lower 48 states. quite extraordinary but is it evidence of man-made global warming? that's tonight's battleground america. joining me now, bill nye the science guy and mark morano, the publisher of climate depo.com. welcome to you both. let me start with you, mark, if i may. you are implacably opposed to the concept of man-made climate change. why? >> we followed the evidence. there are quite literally hundreds of factors that influence global temperature, everything from tilt of the earth's ax
in philanthropy and he is politically powerful. bill clinton, number 50. no hillary clinton or not list. way down at number 65, below the colombian drug deale erdealer, . boehner. boehner that low? >> it's remarkable. there is some subjectivity that goes with this but i think that's very interesting. the other folks that you mentioned. bloomberg fascinates me. >> bloomberg more power than bainer? really? >> i don't know about more power but think about the interesting position that bloomberg's in. he's got a year left on this third term that he has figured out a way to have. he's a publisher. he's a 15th richest guy -- most powerful guy on our list, one of the richest men in the world. >> and a quick thought on ilan musk -- we've heard his name but he doesn't get a lot of attention. why is he in the top 70? >> when you think about the entrepreneurial ethos that forbes tries to represent, the people, places and companies that we try to describe an entrepreneurs in particular, here's a guy who founded paypal. here's a guy who's at the front of the tesla automobile. he's now moving cargo through spa
campaign between bill clinton and george h.w. bush and no one would have predicted that two two dedecades on they would pretty close friends working on projects together. sometimes it's still acrimonious between former competitors, but it this relationship could being akin to that clinton/bush relationship. >> so let's say he doesn't have any public role in the sense of in this administration. matt, what do you think, what does he do next? >> a lot of people are speculating sort of what he might did. it's hard to tell what mitt romney himself is thinking. right now he's enjoying kicking back. you saw photos of him pumping gas, not a generous photo by any stretch, but other photos of him riding roller coasters at disneyland. next who knows. but he is having an office and the office is in boston. so there have been speculation right after the election that he may sort of relocate for all intents and purposes to the west coast and to his house out there. so it does seem like he'll keep his ties in boston at least. >> good to see you gentlemen. thank you. >>> today's tweet of the day mixes po
for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's not where he use
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that looming fiscal avalanche can we expect anything big to come out of it? doug schoen former adviser to bill clinton. monica crowley, fox news contributor. i it's the thing to do. you get a call. >> president obama has a pattern of inviting political opponents, business leaders to the white house for some sort of confab. what it kals end ends up being is a photo opportunity so he looks like he's extending himself to the opposition, he's bipartisan, and he is neither of those things. bill: would you accept that invite. >> i would accept in a heartbeat. bill: monica is saying nada on this. >> i would be more optimistic on this. we are groping for bi-partisanship. if governor romney has things to share and ways to bridge the fiscal cliff this is all good. bill: we went back to the vault to figure out what they are not going to talk about. we found this first of all, okay. i want you to listen to. roll it. >> i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i had a friend who said you don't just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers. bill: i've been in bus
in '95 there was an impasse and the government shut down. newt gingrich and bill clinton the pressure was so intense there was a settlement in two to three weeks. if we go into january it will be less than two or three weeks. >> thanks so much for being with us this morning. >>> speaking of consequences what might be the political consequences if washington fails to stay clear of the fiscal cliff. cbs news political director john dickerson is here with some thoughts on that. john, good morning. so all of this posturing, to what degree is this this is how the sausage gets made versus this is a legitimate stalemate? >> well it's kind of both at the same time. they are both posturing because both knows to get a deal they want to basically express the most extreme versions of their positions because they know they have to carve away at it they are speaking to boston their bases. on the other hand there's still a sticking point at the center of this. if you clear away everything and look at the tax rates the president says tax rates have to go up on the wealthy by some amo
." >> not reaching out aggressively enough like bill clinton, lbj, ronald reagan did. and also it was critical the first four years about him not reaching out enough to the business community. he didn't understand the business community, according to ceos who supported him for four years. but steve rattner, he's made a pretty dramatic shift since the election, and certainly i salute him for doing this, he actually is very engaged with the business community. and i'm not hearing the sort of things from top ceos and business leaders today that i heard the first four years. maybe -- maybe he's leaning in here and trying to rebuild a relationship with some of these people who supported him in '08. >> and i think it goes both ways. i think the business community views this deficit thing as the biggest problem that we can solve that we need to solve. there's something called a campaign to fix the debt, which i'm on the steering committee, 120 leading ceos from everything from general electric to jpmorgan on down. really committed to doing something and accepting the idea that revenues have to go up,
illness. it's an example of how you can form a friendship at these meetings. bill clinton had beat the sitting president, george herber walker bush, and they met similar to the way romney and obama are now, and now clinton and 41 are dear, close friends and have done many constructive things together around the world. i think, by and large, these meetings, the luncheon today, will be about optics. it's the photo ops. it's a chance to say america is united. there may be an opportunity here for mitt romney to come out and talk about the fiscal cliff or saying we must avoid falling off it towards something that could be helpful to the white house in the end. i remember back in 2008 it was john mccain that met with president obama. they met in his office in chicago. not at the white house. it seemed like that was the beginning, potentially of two leaders really working together. we have since seen that deteriorate. >> we can't judge personal kem tri. i think barack obama has more at stake in this lunch in the end than mitt romney. if obama can get romney to say something positive about
their plan. let's see if it adds up. bill clinton made it very clear the arithmetic they're using doesn't add up. they know that we're not going to do certain things. we know they're not going to do certain things. but you cannot get there without a balanced plan. we understand that. you need cuts in spending. you need to deal with entitlements and you also need revenues. let's be real. i don't think, frankly, mr. boehner, and what he said, absolutely no increase in rates. you want to do it by cutting preference items. but he hasn't come up with his list of preference items. the reason he hasn't come up with his list of preference items is because he knows he can't get the votes to do it. and frankly, he doesn't politically want to propose it. let's see -- >> perhaps this is the starting point. we're here. we'll get there. >> congressman hoyer thank you for joining us. >> thank you, sir. >> let's be real. >> thanks, congressman. still ahead this morning here on "starting point" 23 minutes past the hour. bonuses for shutting down hostess. why executives are raking in the money next. ans believ
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